Category: Stranger Things

  • Duff and Duffer

    Duff and Duffer

    So this might be our last Stranger Things post…at least the last one about the actual writing of the show.


    Get this…we still haven’t watched the documentary on Netflix, and honestly we’re not even sure we will. Between clips circulating online and commentary from people who already watched it, we feel like we’ve seen enough to know that maybe we don’t want to sit through it.
    One of the most poignant parts of the documentary seems to be a discussion about the ending sequence…and that’s the part that bothers a lot of people, including us. There’s this notion being floated that fans would experience “demo fatigue”…that there are too many Demogorgons, that viewers would somehow be tired of them by the final episode. Matt Duffer and Ross Duffer apparently point out that there are six Demogorgons attacking the kids simultaneously and maybe that’s enough.


    But someone else…an astute writer involved with the show…correctly points out that it would be crazy not to have Demobats or Demogorgons in the abyss, because that’s their native environment. The response? A simple “hmm.” And then it went away.


    Somehow this idea of demo fatigue took hold, despite the fact that no one actually had it. By episode 8, a lot of us weren’t fatigued by Demogorgons at all. We were fatigued by what we were being put through in season 5.
    Listen…it’s easy to do 20/20 hindsight, Monday-morning quarterbacking, all of those familiar terms. But there’s real criticism worth sticking here.


    One of the greatest cinematic finales ever is Return of the Jedi. That movie had multiple battles happening all at once across the galaxy…and guess what? Viewers weren’t fatigued. They were on the edge of their seats. You had Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker facing off, the Ewoks taking down stormtroopers with sticks and stones, massive space battles unfolding, and the Emperor overseeing it all. It worked.


    Stranger Things season 5 episode 8 could have been that.
    There could have been military battles on Earth…simultaneous battles in the abyss…chaos in the Upside Down…all happening at once. And we would have eaten it up, because that’s what we were waiting for.


    If the Duffers still wanted the graduation scene and the nostalgic ending with Dungeons & Dragons, nothing would have stopped that. Those moments could still exist. What’s troubling is the documentary’s implication that episode 8 was still being written while episode 8 was already being filmed.


    That’s not a minor detail.


    It feels like they didn’t fully watch their own show, or weren’t mindful of its most basic promises…like Hopper spending years promising Joyce Chianti at Enzo’s, not Chardonnay. Basic things, Duffer Brothers. Basic things.


    At this point it’s done. We’ll probably debate season 5 for a long time, and some people will choose to treat season 4 as their personal finale. But if there’s one last thought worth leaving here, it’s this…hubris.


    The idea that success, praise, and constant fanfare can make people feel invincible. And when you’re making a show for fans, even if you don’t want to admit it, maybe you talk to them. Maybe you listen. Yes, it’s your show…but it was also ours.
    Collectively, Stranger Things belonged to all of us.


    And it feels like, in the end, the Duffers took that away.

  • Documentary gate! We have fully conformed

    Documentary gate! We have fully conformed

    Fans have been watching for breadcrumbs, but at this point it’s clear: there’s no bread at all.
    Last night, the big Stranger Things documentary aired on Netflix. You can watch it for yourself—and yes, we’re going to spoil it for you.
    It’s a documentary..

    There was one revelation that is just shocking to really think about. The Duffer brothers did not have an ending for the show when they started filming episode 1. Think about that, 400 million and 3 years to film this and that is saying they do the ending for years. But this documentary showcases quite an office at story. But it’s also just a documentary.


    That alone spoils a lot for people who were holding out hope for a Wes Craven’s New Nightmare–style twist, or that faint dream that Conformity Gate was finally going to happen. The goalposts keep moving, the dates keep getting reset, but with each passing “event,” Stranger Things continues to conclude itself more definitively. Conformity Gate is starting to feel no different than false prophets claiming different calendar months for the end of the world.
    I’ve already heard there’s a new date,January 14th, to look forward to. But at this point, it might be time to hop off the train.


    Don’t get me wrong.. this has been fun. We were genuinely enticed by the idea that the documentary itself might pull a New Nightmare, that it might blur reality and fiction, that Vecna could still be alive and well in some meta, fourth-wall-breaking way.


    And honestly? The hints were there. In the final season, many of the things fans pointed out—plot holes, unresolved threads, lingering imagery—were completely fathomable. It wasn’t crazy to think they could justify some kind of wrap-up, an Episode 9, or at least a tighter conclusion.
    But the documentary was just that: a documentary. Clean. Straightforward. And to be fair, it was a good one. Strong behind-the-scenes footage, thoughtful perspectives from the cast and crew, and a well-told story about how the show came together.


    It just wasn’t what many fans were hoping for.
    What’s interesting is that the Duffer Brothers have said, multiple times, including in the documentary, that a bad ending can ruin an entire show. And while there’s a group of fans who believe Stranger Things ended exactly the way it should have, there’s also a sizable group who don’t. Even among those who were okay with the ending, plenty still wish it had been handled differently—more cohesively, with fewer dangling threads, or without such strong suggestions that Vecna was still in control.


    And if I’m blaming anyone for Conformity Gate, it’s not the fans, and it’s not the Duffers.
    It’s the social media arms of companies like Netflix. The vague posts. The wink-wink captions. The algorithmic breadcrumbs that felt like confirmation. That’s where the gaslighting happened. Those accounts made it seem like something really was coming, like the prognosticators were onto something, like the Upside Down door was still cracked open.
    They’re the real villains here.


    They took us all into the Upside Down for something that was never going to happen… just to keep us watching a few days longer.


    And now? The gate’s closed.

  • We have fully conformed! That’s all folks

    We have fully conformed! That’s all folks

    Conformity Gate has been fun, everyone.


    For about seven days now, we’ve been hunting for clues—freezing frames to see what the clock says behind Mr. Clarke, talking amongst ourselves, making videos, sharing memes, and convincing ourselves that the secret ninth episode of Stranger Things was coming today, January 7th.


    Even last night on The Tonight Show, the actor who played Vecna did a fake aerobics video that was exactly one minute and seven seconds long. The stars appeared to align.
    Except… they didn’t.


    All of the people who said Conformity Gate was a go are now looking a lot like Papa—confident, mysterious, and ultimately wrong.


    And here’s the reality check: though Netflix and creators Matt and Ross Duffer have made no official comment on the theory amid ongoing post–series-finale press interviews, the show’s bios on Netflix’s Instagram, TikTok, and X accounts all clearly state that all episodes are now playing.
    So that’s a wrap.


    Despite the Duffer Brothers remaining silent, all we really have left to look forward to is the January 12th special—and maybe, if we’re lucky, we’ll get a little Wes Craven–style meta twist with that.
    But let’s be honest: no hopes that that is real either.
    Conformity Gate was fun while it lasted.

  • Gaslighting in the upside down? Some official accounts are having too much fun with #Conformitygate rumors

    Gaslighting in the upside down? Some official accounts are having too much fun with #Conformitygate rumors

    Listen, official pages are  having a little too much fun with Stranger Things. Fans are already going wild over this whole Conformity Gate situation, but here’s the interesting part.. today, we actually tested something, and it does happen.


    On Stranger Things’ official TikTok page, when you go to certain videos and type “I believe,” a dice pops up with a number. On another video, when you type “fake ending,” an image appears of the kids from season one hugging. So at this point, are we being gaslit… or is it possible that Conformity Gate is based on something real that’s still coming?


    It’s also pretty much known at this point if you go to Netflix and search for fake ending one of the results that comes up and actually the only result that comes up will be Stranger Things season 5.

    And then this…

    Look, we still think we’re all basically Duffer Tots, like Michael Scott’s kids from that one episode of The Office..

    …But hear me out for a second and go with this interesting possibility, which probably also won’t happen.


    Remember Wes Craven’s New Nightmare? That movie was about the making of A Nightmare on Elm Street, until it slowly turned into something very real, where Freddy actually was real. Now here’s the kicker: there’s a special coming out on January 12th about the making of Stranger Things on Netflix.


    What if they pulled a Wes Craven stunt and gave us more than we expected?


    Again, this is hypothetical. At this point, it’s basically fan fiction. There’s no indication that some secret finale is dropping in theaters or on Netflix on January 7th. But the Easter eggs keep piling up, fans keep hunting, and people are increasingly convinced they’re seeing something—just like Joyce Byers staring at those Christmas lights back in season one.


    And once you see it… it’s hard to unsee it.

  • Duffer’s tots are waiting for episode 9

    Duffer’s tots are waiting for episode 9

    The Stranger Things creators, the Duffer Brothers, have now been interviewed talking about how they kind of wish they didn’t do interviews immediately after the Season 5 finale aired. At least one of them was fighting off the flu. Give us some slack, they contend.


    And maybe that would land better if this wasn’t happening at the exact moment when Conformity Gate is spreading so fast on social media that even news networks are beginning to notice it.
    But here’s the catch.
    Despite Conformity Gate fanatics believing,  wholeheartedly,  that a brand-new show and a “real” final episode is coming tomorrow, there’s pretty much no evidence that this is true. As time goes on, there are no trailers. There are hints people are finding in various places, vague Easter eggs, and maybe even a wrestling crossover that might occur tonight — but we have yet to see any proof of a massive, secret finale event.


    Don’t get us wrong.
    It would  fun and fulfilling..
    It would be cutting-edge.
    It would be a historic television moment.
    But we’re just not seeing the evidence that it’s actually going to come to fruition..


    And that takes us back in time,  to another television show that was one of our favorites years ago, and still is today: The Office. You might still be watching it. We are. Its enduring legacy continues through generations.
    But there was one specific episode that stands apart.


    Scott’s Tots.


    In that episode, Michael Scott, the lovable but delusional boss from Dunder Mifflin, visits a high school in Scranton. Years earlier, he had promised a group of third graders that if they stayed in school and graduated, he would personally pay for their college tuition. The promise became legend. Graduation rates improved. Teachers told the story. Parents believed in it. The students believed in it. When Michael finally arrives, the kids sing him a song, proudly talk about the colleges they’re attending, and explain how his promise inspired them to stay focused, stay motivated, and believe their dreams would be fulfilled — because Michael Scott would come back and make good on what he said.
    Except he doesn’t have the money.


    He never did.
    And instead of scholarships, all he has to offer are laptop batteries.


    The episode is brutal. Painful. Almost unbearable to watch.
    We all sat there and winced. Some of us literally covered our faces. It’s widely regarded as one of the most uncomfortable episodes in television history — so much so that many Office fans skip it entirely on rewatches. They know it’s fiction. They know it’s fake. But it’s so well done, so emotionally precise, that we all grimace as Michael sits there desperately trying to figure out what to say to kids who built their futures around his promise.
    And that’s where we are now.


    Because sometimes, good intentions don’t change how it feels to be on the receiving end of unmet expectations.
    So I wonder if the Duffer Brothers are starting to feel something similar.
    Listen .. there are tons of rumors floating around. We’re told the last couple of episodes were terrible because one of the Duffer Brothers’ ex-wives supposedly ghost-wrote earlier seasons and wasn’t involved this time. We’re told the writing fell apart. We’re told plot holes exist because the creators simply gave up keeping track of their own mythology.


    What we do know is this:
    We have a show that many people loved.
    We have a show that many people didn’t love.
    And we have a rapidly growing segment of fans who believe what we watched wasn’t real at all.
    That it was an illusion.
    That it was Conformity at its best ..or worst.
    And that a “real” Episode 9 is coming to clear everything up.


    We’re waiting with bated breath and anticipation.
    Just like the kids waited for Michael Scott to walk into that school and fulfill their dreams.
    So yeah.


    We’re Duffer’s Tots.
    We’ve got songs planned.


    We’re standing in the auditorium.
    We’re watching Netflix refresh.
    And predictably  when Episode 9 never uploads  it’s going to feel a lot like watching Michael Scott walk in with laptop batteries and say, “I tried.”

  • Matt and Ross Duffer: Cut us some slack!

    Matt and Ross Duffer: Cut us some slack!

    Josh Horowitz interviewed Matt and Ross Duffer on his YouTube channel.. they discuss the show, the future of it, the spinoffs.. and the need to cut them some slack..

    This is the first long form public interview with the show’s filmmakers — but they refuse to give any answers on Eleven ..

    You can see the full interview:

    Matt Duffer expressed a bit of a frustration in the post release days..

    “I am not in a good place. Like, why the hell did we do any of them yesterday is beyond me. I’m like fried. I was getting over the flu. So anyone mad at any answers we gave you yesterday, just cut me some slack.”

    Many fans have expressed this meme in frustration to the Stranger Things finale and Duffer explanations..

    Some have commented that it’s their interviews which make plot holes even deeper..

    The reaction on some X threads has not been kind..

    The Duffers did joke that they don’t tell Noah Schapp as they can’t trust him with show secrets.. but spinoffs are coming..

    Ross: I don’t know why you tease this.

    Matt: I don’t want to be like there’s nothing else when there is something else. It’s not what people are going to think it is. The big thing is the live-action spin-off.

    Matt said it is not a spinoff sequel to Stranger Things, but instead a spinoff with its own mythology.

    DEVELOPING in the coming months.. and years..

  • Conformity gate .. or Ghost Writer gate?

    Conformity gate .. or Ghost Writer gate?

    Before you read this post is speculative and just for fun no harm or foul has been meant. But when you’re done reading you might start to believe in an alternative theory of an alternative theory…

    Over the past few days, a lot of fans have become absolutely amped up over Conformity Gate.. the idea that Stranger Things Season 5 wasn’t what it appeared to be. That the happy endings were too clean. That the graduation imagery felt off. That the orange robes looked more like prison uniforms than Hawkins school colors. That the synchronized body language echoed Vecna’s control. That maybe, just maybe, the characters  and the audience  were prisoners in a mental construct.


    Add to that the belief that a secret series or hidden episodes are coming to “fix” or “complete” what we saw, and suddenly the internet is treating Season 5 like an ARG instead of a finale.
    But what if the real gate people are circling isn’t Conformity Gate at all?


    What if it’s Ghostwriter Gate.
    Now — important disclaimer up front:
    This is not an accusation. There is no proof. No credits. No confirmation. This is pure rumor, speculation, and fandom imagination, discussed strictly for fun and cultural analysis.
    That said…


    There’s been a quiet rumor floating around online that a ghostwriter may have assisted the show at some point, uncredited, unofficial, unseen. And naturally, speculation has latched onto Leigh Janiak, whose writing and directing on the Fear Street films showcased genuinely sharp, confident, emotionally grounded horror storytelling.



    She is not credited on Stranger Things.
    There is no evidence she wrote for the show.
    This is internet conjecture only.


    But here’s why the rumor has traction.
    The Fear Street trilogy surprised a lot of people. It wasn’t just stylish and it was dramatically strong, character-driven, and thematically cohesive across multiple timelines. It balanced nostalgia, brutality, intimacy, and social commentary in a way that felt assured.

    And the timing is interesting because she filed for divorce with raw stuffer and 2024, while the show was presumably still being perfected and written and honed in on.


    Meanwhile, Season 5 of Stranger Things has left a chunk of the fanbase feeling oddly disengaged and underwhelmed. Like something vital wasn’t there. Like the dialogue, pacing, or emotional weight didn’t land the way earlier seasons did.
    So the rumor machine does what it always does.
    It fills the gap.


    And suddenly the theory becomes:
    What if a ghostwriter helped shape the emotional backbone of earlier seasons — and what if that influence quietly disappeared?
    To be clear: there is no proof this happened.
    But it’s fascinating that fans are reaching there instead of simply saying, “Maybe the story just didn’t hit for me.”


    Which brings us back to Conformity Gate.


    Maybe these theories aren’t really about secret endings or hidden series at all. Maybe they’re about grief .. the grief of saying goodbye to something that mattered deeply for ten years. When a finale doesn’t feel transcendent, fans don’t just critique it… they reframe reality to keep the magic alive.


    So whether it’s Conformity Gate, Secret Series Gate, or Ghostwriter Gate, maybe all roads lead to the same place:
    A fanbase that loved something so much, it refuses to believe this is where it ends.

  • THE DUFFERS LAUGH OFF #conformitygate .. And it makes fans believe it more!

    THE DUFFERS LAUGH OFF #conformitygate .. And it makes fans believe it more!

    Friends don’t lie! But fans think the Duffers are..

    There’s a video circulating of The Duffer Brothers commenting on Conformity Gate. If you’ve been following us here, or have seen what’s been trending across social media, you already know the theory: that Vecna actually won at the end of Stranger Things Season 5.

    All of the weird things like hands being folded, people staring at the camera breaking the fourth wall, the imagery of books arranged to where it says a lie. You Can Read All About It on various social threads..


    The argument hinges on a series of unsettling details, most notably the graduates wearing orange attire instead of the traditional Hawkins school colors. To many fans, that imagery suggests prisoners. Prisoners of the mind. Prisoners of Vecna. And at the center of it all is Mike Wheeler, viewed by some as the ultimate prisoner.


    There are a lot of Conformity Gate theories floating around right now, and in the video, the Duffers appear to laugh the idea off. But here’s the thing: by laughing it off, they may actually be reinforcing the theory. Because in a show that’s built its legacy on misdirection, hidden clues, and long-game storytelling… dismissing it so casually almost feels like part of the game.


    And if Stranger Things has taught us anything, it’s that nothing is ever quite as simple, or is “over,” as it seems.

    Conformity gate will live or die in just a few days when, again due to the fan theory, these secret final scenes will come out either January 6th or January 7th. What is true is a WWE crossover on Netflix and an announcement from Netflix of upcoming programming. No reliable sources claim that any further stranger things materials coming besides the upcoming spinoffs in the future.

  • A lot of people went to see Stranger Things in theaters and buy concession stand food

    A lot of people went to see Stranger Things in theaters and buy concession stand food

    On New Year’s Eve, Stranger Things: The Finale debuted simultaneously on the streamer and in roughly 600 cinemas — more than a third belonged to AMC, the country and world’s largest chain — before holding encore showings throughout New Year’s Day. At AMC alone, the theater giant said that The Finale earned $15 million from the $20 food and beverage credits purchased.

    The total summation for all theaters showing may have been near $30 mil.. a true cultural moment..

    MORE…

    Netflix didn’t have to worry about reporting grosses for Stranger Things, since fans reserved a seat by purchasing a concession voucher directly from the theaters.

    AMC and Cinemark Theatres both charged $20, plus fees in certain instances.

    Regal Cinemas and several others charged $11, a reference to the name of the show’s lead character.

    Earlier this week, the Duffers said on social media that 1.1 million vouchers had been sold. By New Year’s Day, Steve Buck’s leading research and exit polling firm EntTelligence showed admissions at 1.3 million…

  • #conformitygate!? I BELIEVE :)

    #conformitygate!? I BELIEVE 🙂

    The other day, we said goodbye to Stranger Things.
    We actually posted something here thanking the show and its creators for a full decade of memories—anticipation, fan theories, speculation, and fun. And it’s worth reminding ourselves: at the end of the day, this is a TV show. In this case, maybe one of the most important television shows ever made—but it’s still fiction.


    However…
    Over the past 48 hours, a lot of fans have become enamored with a possibility now being called Conformity Gate.


    Here’s the theory: the final episode of Stranger Things wasn’t quite right. There was too much conformity as the happy endings unfolded—especially during the Hawkins High graduation scene. To many fans, that ceremony didn’t represent freedom at all, but rather suggested that everyone was still a prisoner of Vecna, their minds quietly under his control.


    People have pointed out that during the graduation, the students all sit with their hands folded in the exact same way—just like Vecna. The audience behind them mirrors the posture too. There’s also renewed talk about unreleased footage—specifically a Mike and Will basement scene that fans have demanded access to for years. The Duffer Brothers have told Variety that there really isn’t much cut footage and that this scene may not even exist. But that hasn’t stopped the speculation.


    So what we’re left with is a familiar and fascinating mix: clues, theories, and the same kind of obsessive deep-dives we’ve been doing for ten years now. Hidden gems in trailers. Posters. Morse code. Radio stations. Easter eggs layered on top of Easter eggs. All the breadcrumbs the Duffers trained us to follow.


    But the real question is: should we still be following them?
    Is there any chance Conformity Gate is actually real?

    Here’s some screenshots without endorsements from the most fun speculation of all.


    Here’s what we do know. There are spin-offs coming. One of them could explain why the old man in the cave had a suitcase containing the rock that infected Henry. We also know there’s an animated series coming to Netflix—and the beauty of animation is that kids don’t have to age. They can stay young forever if you want them to. And let’s be honest, there are probably more spin-offs on the way.


    I’ll admit this: after seeing Stranger Things in a theater—by the way, I successfully avoided social media for 24 hours before watching it in IMAX—I floated a theory to some friends. When Hopper says he’s moving to Montauk, what if he knows Eleven is alive? What if he has her? What if he got a deal he couldn’t refuse, backed by the government, to leave Hawkins and relocate so experimentation could continue elsewhere?
    After all, it was the ’80s. The Cold War was winding down. The Soviet Union was nearing collapse.


    Maybe that’s a silly theory.
    But there have been plenty of silly theories over the years.. and that’s kind of the point, isn’t it? Why not join in?

    But there is one that got me. One of the Conformity gate theories asks why there’s no leaves on trees and why during the graduation scene in May it looks like it’s in the autumn. Could this be a true continuity failure or perhaps, should we dive deeper.

    @thecrownjulia

    and since everyone’s new favorite term is media literacy, i would recommend watching the whole video before dismissing this. #strangerthings #strangerthings5 #mikewheeler #willbyers #byler

    ♬ original sound – thecrownjulia


    And maybe this is the biggest sign of all that we’re going to miss the hell out of this show.
    For the last two days, Conformity Gate has been fun. We’ve been anxiously hopeful that WSQK might come back, even though it’s been taken off the air and the only hint of future activity seems to be possible merchandising. But all of this just proves how uniquely powerful this show was.
    Stranger Things united us.

    But then again back to the conspiracy why did the binders change in the final episode? Continuity area yet again or are we being messed with because there’s no coincidences like Lucas told us when he broke the fourth wall..


    It brought people together on forums, websites, and social media in ways no one expected. People became friends who never would have crossed paths otherwise. Just like Dustin said during his graduation speech. In their fictional world, the events in Hawkins brought people together unexpectedly. The same thing happened in the real world.


    I don’t think we’re ever going to see another show like this in our lifetime. There will be other great movies and shows. There will be water-cooler moments. But this one was different. We knew it was special while it was happening.


    And now that it’s gone, there’s a deep sense of loss.
    Watching the final scenes play out in a packed theater was something I won’t forget. People applauded. And then, during that last wave of nostalgia, the room went quiet. Adults and kids alike. Walking down the theater steps afterward, there was this somber hush. It wasn’t a funeral march—we were grateful—but it felt like a funeral in one important way: something was gone that we can’t get back.


    The magic of waiting for each season.
    I remember exactly where I was in 2016. I remember the summer of 2019 when Season 3 dropped and everything felt lighter and more fun. I remember where I was when Season 4 released. This show marked time in our lives.
    It mattered.


    So if the Duffer Brothers were clever enough to hide a twisted ending and Conformity Gate turns out to be real.. bring it on. I won’t complain about extra footage or another chapter. But realistically, I think it’s over.


    Except… it’s never really over with us, is it?
    Sometimes these spin-offs work. Often they don’t. But because we fell in love with Stranger Things, we’ll give each one a chance.


    And maybe that’s the final legacy of the show.