Josh Horowitz interviewed Matt and Ross Duffer on his YouTube channel.. they discuss the show, the future of it, the spinoffs.. and the need to cut them some slack..
This is the first long form public interview with the show’s filmmakers — but they refuse to give any answers on Eleven ..
You can see the full interview:
Matt Duffer expressed a bit of a frustration in the post release days..
“I am not in a good place. Like, why the hell did we do any of them yesterday is beyond me. I’m like fried. I was getting over the flu. So anyone mad at any answers we gave you yesterday, just cut me some slack.”
Many fans have expressed this meme in frustration to the Stranger Things finale and Duffer explanations..
Some have commented that it’s their interviews which make plot holes even deeper..
The reaction on some X threads has not been kind..
Matt Duffer says he regrets doing post-finale interviews, asking fans to cut him some slack.
"I am not in a good place. Like, why the hell did we do any of them yesterday is beyond me. I'm like fried. I was getting over the flu. So anyone mad at any answers we gave you… pic.twitter.com/StWPEDGFbI
The Duffers did joke that they don’t tell Noah Schapp as they can’t trust him with show secrets.. but spinoffs are coming..
Ross: I don’t know why you tease this.
Matt: I don’t want to be like there’s nothing else when there is something else. It’s not what people are going to think it is. The big thing is the live-action spin-off.
Matt said it is not a spinoff sequel to Stranger Things, but instead a spinoff with its own mythology.
Before you read this post is speculative and just for fun no harm or foul has been meant. But when you’re done reading you might start to believe in an alternative theory of an alternative theory…
Over the past few days, a lot of fans have become absolutely amped up over Conformity Gate.. the idea that Stranger Things Season 5 wasn’t what it appeared to be. That the happy endings were too clean. That the graduation imagery felt off. That the orange robes looked more like prison uniforms than Hawkins school colors. That the synchronized body language echoed Vecna’s control. That maybe, just maybe, the characters and the audience were prisoners in a mental construct.
Add to that the belief that a secret series or hidden episodes are coming to “fix” or “complete” what we saw, and suddenly the internet is treating Season 5 like an ARG instead of a finale. But what if the real gate people are circling isn’t Conformity Gate at all?
What if it’s Ghostwriter Gate. Now — important disclaimer up front: This is not an accusation. There is no proof. No credits. No confirmation. This is pure rumor, speculation, and fandom imagination, discussed strictly for fun and cultural analysis. That said…
There’s been a quiet rumor floating around online that a ghostwriter may have assisted the show at some point, uncredited, unofficial, unseen. And naturally, speculation has latched onto Leigh Janiak, whose writing and directing on the Fear Street films showcased genuinely sharp, confident, emotionally grounded horror storytelling.
She is not credited on Stranger Things. There is no evidence she wrote for the show. This is internet conjecture only.
But here’s why the rumor has traction. The Fear Street trilogy surprised a lot of people. It wasn’t just stylish and it was dramatically strong, character-driven, and thematically cohesive across multiple timelines. It balanced nostalgia, brutality, intimacy, and social commentary in a way that felt assured.
Meanwhile, Season 5 of Stranger Things has left a chunk of the fanbase feeling oddly disengaged and underwhelmed. Like something vital wasn’t there. Like the dialogue, pacing, or emotional weight didn’t land the way earlier seasons did. So the rumor machine does what it always does. It fills the gap.
And suddenly the theory becomes: What if a ghostwriter helped shape the emotional backbone of earlier seasons — and what if that influence quietly disappeared? To be clear: there is no proof this happened. But it’s fascinating that fans are reaching there instead of simply saying, “Maybe the story just didn’t hit for me.”
Which brings us back to Conformity Gate.
Maybe these theories aren’t really about secret endings or hidden series at all. Maybe they’re about grief .. the grief of saying goodbye to something that mattered deeply for ten years. When a finale doesn’t feel transcendent, fans don’t just critique it… they reframe reality to keep the magic alive.
So whether it’s Conformity Gate, Secret Series Gate, or Ghostwriter Gate, maybe all roads lead to the same place: A fanbase that loved something so much, it refuses to believe this is where it ends.
Friends don’t lie! But fans think the Duffers are..
There’s a video circulating of The Duffer Brothers commenting on Conformity Gate. If you’ve been following us here, or have seen what’s been trending across social media, you already know the theory: that Vecna actually won at the end of Stranger Things Season 5.
All of the weird things like hands being folded, people staring at the camera breaking the fourth wall, the imagery of books arranged to where it says a lie. You Can Read All About It on various social threads..
The argument hinges on a series of unsettling details, most notably the graduates wearing orange attire instead of the traditional Hawkins school colors. To many fans, that imagery suggests prisoners. Prisoners of the mind. Prisoners of Vecna. And at the center of it all is Mike Wheeler, viewed by some as the ultimate prisoner.
There are a lot of Conformity Gate theories floating around right now, and in the video, the Duffers appear to laugh the idea off. But here’s the thing: by laughing it off, they may actually be reinforcing the theory. Because in a show that’s built its legacy on misdirection, hidden clues, and long-game storytelling… dismissing it so casually almost feels like part of the game.
And if Stranger Things has taught us anything, it’s that nothing is ever quite as simple, or is “over,” as it seems.
Conformity gate will live or die in just a few days when, again due to the fan theory, these secret final scenes will come out either January 6th or January 7th. What is true is a WWE crossover on Netflix and an announcement from Netflix of upcoming programming. No reliable sources claim that any further stranger things materials coming besides the upcoming spinoffs in the future.
The other day, we said goodbye to Stranger Things. We actually posted something here thanking the show and its creators for a full decade of memories—anticipation, fan theories, speculation, and fun. And it’s worth reminding ourselves: at the end of the day, this is a TV show. In this case, maybe one of the most important television shows ever made—but it’s still fiction.
However… Over the past 48 hours, a lot of fans have become enamored with a possibility now being called Conformity Gate.
Here’s the theory: the final episode of Stranger Things wasn’t quite right. There was too much conformity as the happy endings unfolded—especially during the Hawkins High graduation scene. To many fans, that ceremony didn’t represent freedom at all, but rather suggested that everyone was still a prisoner of Vecna, their minds quietly under his control.
People have pointed out that during the graduation, the students all sit with their hands folded in the exact same way—just like Vecna. The audience behind them mirrors the posture too. There’s also renewed talk about unreleased footage—specifically a Mike and Will basement scene that fans have demanded access to for years. The Duffer Brothers have told Variety that there really isn’t much cut footage and that this scene may not even exist. But that hasn’t stopped the speculation.
So what we’re left with is a familiar and fascinating mix: clues, theories, and the same kind of obsessive deep-dives we’ve been doing for ten years now. Hidden gems in trailers. Posters. Morse code. Radio stations. Easter eggs layered on top of Easter eggs. All the breadcrumbs the Duffers trained us to follow.
But the real question is: should we still be following them? Is there any chance Conformity Gate is actually real?
Here’s some screenshots without endorsements from the most fun speculation of all.
Here’s what we do know. There are spin-offs coming. One of them could explain why the old man in the cave had a suitcase containing the rock that infected Henry. We also know there’s an animated series coming to Netflix—and the beauty of animation is that kids don’t have to age. They can stay young forever if you want them to. And let’s be honest, there are probably more spin-offs on the way.
I’ll admit this: after seeing Stranger Things in a theater—by the way, I successfully avoided social media for 24 hours before watching it in IMAX—I floated a theory to some friends. When Hopper says he’s moving to Montauk, what if he knows Eleven is alive? What if he has her? What if he got a deal he couldn’t refuse, backed by the government, to leave Hawkins and relocate so experimentation could continue elsewhere? After all, it was the ’80s. The Cold War was winding down. The Soviet Union was nearing collapse.
Maybe that’s a silly theory. But there have been plenty of silly theories over the years.. and that’s kind of the point, isn’t it? Why not join in?
But there is one that got me. One of the Conformity gate theories asks why there’s no leaves on trees and why during the graduation scene in May it looks like it’s in the autumn. Could this be a true continuity failure or perhaps, should we dive deeper.
And maybe this is the biggest sign of all that we’re going to miss the hell out of this show. For the last two days, Conformity Gate has been fun. We’ve been anxiously hopeful that WSQK might come back, even though it’s been taken off the air and the only hint of future activity seems to be possible merchandising. But all of this just proves how uniquely powerful this show was. Stranger Things united us.
But then again back to the conspiracy why did the binders change in the final episode? Continuity area yet again or are we being messed with because there’s no coincidences like Lucas told us when he broke the fourth wall..
It brought people together on forums, websites, and social media in ways no one expected. People became friends who never would have crossed paths otherwise. Just like Dustin said during his graduation speech. In their fictional world, the events in Hawkins brought people together unexpectedly. The same thing happened in the real world.
I don’t think we’re ever going to see another show like this in our lifetime. There will be other great movies and shows. There will be water-cooler moments. But this one was different. We knew it was special while it was happening.
And now that it’s gone, there’s a deep sense of loss. Watching the final scenes play out in a packed theater was something I won’t forget. People applauded. And then, during that last wave of nostalgia, the room went quiet. Adults and kids alike. Walking down the theater steps afterward, there was this somber hush. It wasn’t a funeral march—we were grateful—but it felt like a funeral in one important way: something was gone that we can’t get back.
The magic of waiting for each season. I remember exactly where I was in 2016. I remember the summer of 2019 when Season 3 dropped and everything felt lighter and more fun. I remember where I was when Season 4 released. This show marked time in our lives. It mattered.
So if the Duffer Brothers were clever enough to hide a twisted ending and Conformity Gate turns out to be real.. bring it on. I won’t complain about extra footage or another chapter. But realistically, I think it’s over.
Except… it’s never really over with us, is it? Sometimes these spin-offs work. Often they don’t. But because we fell in love with Stranger Things, we’ll give each one a chance.
It’s Stranger Things Day. The finale is here, dropping on New Year’s Eve tonight across the world. This amazing, decade-long journey of Stranger Things is coming to a bittersweet end. It’s been memorable. It’s been great. Except for this season, which a lot of people seem to hate. But what if we’ve all been played? Let me explain.
There’s a very popular TikToker, username Flayed, who’s been making the rounds with a theory that Vecna isn’t just destroying Will’s memories but collectively, our memories as well. And when you start connecting the dots, a lot of things suddenly line up.
It all goes hand in hand with the WSQK Squawk radio station that the creators chose to build for this show. It slightly breaks the fourth wall — actually, it breaks it quite a bit. We can listen to the station as glitches happen in real time, Morse code appears, and strange ads play for skating rinks we’ve never heard of before. There are also jokes about walking into basements and locking doors if you want privacy — a subtle nod to the idea that Will and Mike were found in the basement at some point, and that this whole Byler situation really did happen.
And it gets deeper.
Is it possible that Vecna has been breaking the fourth wall this entire time? He stares directly at us on multiple occasions. Lucas does it too when he says, “There are no coincidences.” Colors change. Objects don’t look the same. On the radio station, announcer Vance Goodman even says that a button he always pushed is suddenly a different color.
There are hints everywhere that something is wrong with time — or reality itself. That there’s a wrinkle happening not just in Hawkins, but in the way memories exist. People remember things differently. Events don’t line up the way they should. Even we, as viewers, are arguing about scenes that may not be what we think they are. Everyone has been debating the coming-out scene, arguing about whether it worked or didn’t. But what if we all missed a much bigger clue?
The store Will talks about doesn’t serve milkshakes — at least not in the 1980s scenes. But it could have in the 1950s, when a younger Henry might have been a customer. And when everyone gives Will a final hug after that scene, Joyce doesn’t. Maybe that’s the moment she realizes Will isn’t sharing his memories anymore — that something feels wrong, altered, or incomplete. It’s a cool theory. And it’s the last one I’m going to talk about, because the show ends tonight. But if this theory turns out to be true — if the Duffer Brothers didn’t just break the fourth wall, but actually pulled the entire world into the story — if they made us debate moments that didn’t really happen because Vecna wasn’t just destroying the characters’ memories, but ours as well… My God.
That would be a brilliant ending. One that would blow everyone out of the water. The final trailer didn’t give us much. Just flames, fire, and red everywhere, along with Hopper giving an inspirational speech about one last battle — with Eleven, we think. But maybe it’s not Eleven. Maybe it’s Joyce. Maybe they all have to confront their own demons — what they did to Henry when they were kids.
Hold on tight. And if you’re going to a theater to see it, don’t spoil it. Let the theater experience be the very first time you see it. Happy New Year’s Eve, everyone. And happy Stranger Things.
