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The hot air is blowing strong

ORIGINAL POST PUBLISHED FEBRUARY 1 2015 AT 10:29PM. UPDATED FEBRUARY 2 2015 AT 7:45 AM

It may not be a war of words, but a cold wind of tension has taken over the popular message board BELLGAB this week.. While the Superbowl and New England Patriots victory played out on television, Art Bell and George Noory were busy playing their own radio version of a war of words.. Bell, who has messaged considerably more often on BELLGAB and Facebook than any time since his Sirius radio program aired, issued a direct message to Tom Danheiser, Lysa Lyon, and George Noory. The message seemed to cut deep enough that Noory himself returned to BellGAB to respond.

Art Bell’s message in total:

To, Lisa, Tommy & George

I am posting this here because I know you read here by the hour.

You may have noticed that when I made my announcement on FB I did not in ANY
way mention George or even Premiere. That is because I was hoping that I could
put all my efforts into preparing for the show I am going to do. It is not in your
interest to make this a War because as the 500 pound Gorilla in the room any conflict
does not work in your favor at all. I was and still am hoping we can simply both do
what we do and see how it all shakes out.

However, taking Jimmy away from Keith was kind of low brow, having George get on
the air and pretend to “help” me by talking about my return and then playing my now
very old show where I was told to say “George gets it”…..well, it just does not seem like a
good start.

Let’s start fresh! I will not go after you guy’s and you don’t go after me. Lets both do what
we do and see how it comes out in the end! I am more then happy to have a smaller, higher
quality show if that’s how it plays out.

I will not hit, but I will hit back.

Art Bell

Noory, hours later, issued a response using BELLGAB:

Some of you have asked that I reply to Art’s most recent posting and I shall.
First of all and this is directed to Art. We ALL wish you well in your return and you can count on us not launching a first strike lol. I think its great that you are doing what you do best. My announcement of your return was just that—-you created C2C and I felt I owed it to you to make that announcement. I wouldnt do it for anyone else. If you DONT want me to engage in promoting your return, please say the word so all can see that it not me doing it!!!

As for Jimmy Church….we didnt steal him from Keith I just found out a few days ago that he wants to do his own thing (he called me) He has only filled in on two shows. Hardly stealing him away.

Id like to address your feelings that we were poaching on ‘your’ guests during your Sirius show. Never…they were all told that they could do any show they wanted and that included Richard C Hoagland and the psychic twins. What they were told was that IF they were on your show on a Monday…we wouldnt have them on immediately thereafter. Some of the guests you selected had already been boooked on coast and once they appeared on your Sirius Show…we moved them. I do believe the twins didnot unedrstand Tommy’s discussion with them . As for us popping up on Sirius/XM after you left. As you know we were on XM before your were hired on for years..The channel was discontinued cancelling many shows and we immediately started negotiations to get back on a different channel and would have ended up on the INDY Channel (the one you were on) after your show aired. Once you left, they quickly wrapped up negotiations.

the somewhere in time shows are selected by one of our producers who simply picks shows based on what we have in the vault. Frankly, he should have run the ‘George gets it” show….years ago…lol…..

and lastly you asked (I am told) on your facebook page to have Bellgabbers to call into my show. Rest assured we dont play that game…..We sincerely wish you well. and trust your family is well.

You have my personal email so if at anytime you wish to privately email me…please do so.

George Noory

PS We dont peruse BELLGAB hourly …maybe every two hours lol
Be well

This is not the first time that Bell and Noory have spoken to each other without directly speaking to each other. BELLGAB was the venue previously, when Bell hosted DARK MATTER on Sirius radio. Noory slowly left the message board and started hinting on his program that people who ‘live in their parents’ basement’ and utilize ‘chatrooms’ such as Bellgab are haters and without much merit or credibility. It was only on Friday night that Noory, speaking in a strangely deep voice, almost sounded to be trembling while discussing people online who ‘hide’ behind fake names and say cruel things. BELLGAB users latched onto those comments and sensed Noory was speaking of the message board.

This latest twist in the saga of BELL vs NOORY will no doubt get as much fan attention as previous fights. Some of them comments back to Noory take no prisoners:

Go to bed you drunk.

You should contact Art directly when you sober up.

Another:

Go jump in a portal.

Art Bell took George Noory to task in a return message, again postd to BELLGAB.

Bell wrote,

I guess I will have to work from the bottom up, I defy you to show me where at any point
on my Facebook page or ANY other place I have ever asked ANYBODY to call your show.

Second, for a guy who “does not believe in coincidence” you seem to have a endless number
of them when it comes to me, from Oates forward, simply too many to recite here.

Third, with regard to Poaching, it has nothing to do with my “feelings” and more to do with actual History.

Fourth, As for your “popping up on 104” I don’t care, it was a shrewd business move and I would have
done the same thing had the situation been reversed, I made my bed with that situation and I have to
live with it. My choice today would be the same for the same reasons.

Fifth, I hope that your promise not to launch a first strike begins now after the 2nd strike has already
landed. I also hope it includes the others YOU will say launched it when it inevitability comes.

Sixth, WORD! Meaning no thank you, please do not promote in any way my return in July. I along
with a few close friends will carry that water. If whoever keeps making you mention my name at the end
of each show will allow you to stop, please do.

Seventh, Jimmy Church was Keith Rowland’s guy and I guess it is just another darn “coincidence” that IHeart
Radio owned by Clear Channel snapped him up a Week before he did his second show on Coast.

All that said, let us both do the best Radio we know how to do and barring any “coincidental” launches this
should end our discourse.

Art Bell

We Tweeted earlier today that BELLGAB was going to be center stage in the return of Art Bell. It appears even more likely after tonight’s Superbowl fireworks..

One big game ended.
In radioland, another big one is just heating up..

February 2, 2015
THE GLOVES ARE OFF ON BELLGAB: PAGE 666 BEGINS A WAR

Anyone following the ART BELL saga knows what site BELLGAB is.. it’s the home to a dedicated fan base of various people from all walks of life who, in the spirit of online honesty, come together to lament the way Coast to Coast AM has changed since Bell left as the prime steward. But now it’s becoming the new hangout for Bell himself, who has previously utilized the message board during his Sirius stint, but appears to be stressing a more active role on the site.

Last night, the gloves came off on page 666..

Premiere Radio networks has been airing a program each Saturday called ‘Somewhere in time’ for years, much to the chagrinne of Bell, who has asked them repeatedly to cease the weekly show. Instead, they continued it. This week, after Bell announced his new program will air on the Dark Matter Radio network in July, Premiere chose an interesting program for the Somewhere in Time. It was a show from 2002 in which Bell not only alluded to a future trip with his wife at the time–one that would became fatal and tragic–but also had a caller doubting George Noory. Bell told that caller three words that have lived in infamy: “George Gets It.”

Last night on BELLGAB, Art Bell himself posted a message showcasing his acknowledgment that Premiere used the Somewhere in Time show as not only a shot at Bell but also a reinforcement that Bell once said Noory ‘gets it’ in relation to the themes and reason that Coast was successful to begin with. Bell wrote this:

One last thing since we are on 666, Yikes 667 already!…..”He gets it” is what GN’s new Boss asked me to say.
Gee, just one last thing, that they have chosen that show only shows me that little beads of sweat are on their faces. Frankly I don’t care what they do, only what I WILL do.
Art

P.S. Georgie, when you are forced to mention my name after every show please throw something in about July!

Entertainment can be cruel.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

In the Sirius radio botch, Bell admitted that he lost that battle and Premiere radio won. There sounds to be much more to the story, one we may hear in July when Bell freely and for FREE broadcasts his program across the internet. Bell even admits that AM radio is dying and the future is through social networking and online podcasting. Some fans wish he would have entertained that long before he considered Sirius radio. But history is history.

What is clear for the present time, though: The gloves are off. If Bell senses he lost a battle, he may have regrouped for the war. All eyes are on Bellgab for more.

George Noory himself went there before he called users ‘haters.’

As the battle continues..Stay tuned for more. As always, we will be following. And actively engaged on the message board as well.

February 1, 2015
SHARP JAB: George Noory anti-Science? Art Bell thinks so

Art Bell, considering making a run at online broadcasting later this summer, launched a missile at his potential rival George Noory on Coast to Coast AM tonight on Facebook, further showing the bad blood that exists between the former and current host of the late night radio program.

Bell said this in a Facebook post,

I just got a Facebook message from a listener who was very concerned that George Noory is having Guest’s on urging people not to get their children vaccinated! I am not a listener to Coast but if true it is beyond irresponsible

Bell continued,

I don’t want to believe it’s true but if so please look at the real science George, this is just plain dangerous.

The recent measles and flu scares have caused a vicious debate to surface in media and pop culture about the safety and importance of vaccines. Noory as host of Coast’s newest incarnation has phased into a more government conspiracy program as opposed to paranormal version made famous by Bell. As a result, Noory has entertained numerous guests who have questioned the safety of vaccines and tied them to autism and other malfunctions of the brain. The most recent guest is the controversial Doctor Sherri Tenpenny. Tenpenny spoke to Noory concerning a burst of controversy about an anti-vaccination speech she had planned for Australia. Just today, it was announced that Tenpenny has canceled her land down under blunder..

But it’s also not the first time the subject matter has been entertained on the program as proven by a search of past shows. While it is not clear which specific guest Bell may have been referring to, his point is clear: He is not in the camp that believes vaccines cause danger bad enough to refuse them. Without a doubt, Bell’s would have also had have to been given many himself, traveling between the Philippines and the United States an untold number of times.

Readers of the HORROR REPORT will know, this is not the first war of words between Art Bell and George Noory–and will not be their last. Despite Noory’s reference to Bell at the end of each one of his shows, Bell has repeatedly said he wants nothing to do with Premiere Radio Networks or Coast to Coast AM.. His brief stint on Sirius radio featured a number of verbal strikes on Coast. While the program did not last, his loyal fan base is still hoping for fourth of July fireworks with a return of Bell to Dark Matter Radio Network site created by Bell’s longtime webmaster Keith Rowland. Recently, Bell dropped some hints that gave fans pause about a return, saying a big “IF” on the BELLGAB website on the ART BELL THREAD..

The comments on Facebook tonight were greeted mostly with agreements, however some naysayers on vaccines also spoke up to defend their position. The overarching theme however was disdain to what Bell fans perceive as Noory doing to Coast to Coast AM, changing and maligning the program’s intent and now, if you agree with Bell’s position, offering listeners very bad if not dangerous science.

Bell continued the dialogue in his Facebook post. At one point he address Noory’s constant use of his name at the end of the nightly show, saying,

I have asked asked for a very long time that George NOT mention my name as I would rather not be connected to what Coast has become, thus far he has refused to stop for a reason I can not grasp.

Another commenter called Noory a slimeball. Bell responded to that,

Let’s not call names, for me it is very simple, George Noory and myself have very different visions of what the show should be to the degree that I do not want my name associated with it. Obviously he will do what he thinks is right.

One comment was written by a woman believing that Bell was ‘set up’ in his Sirius program. Bell responded to that, as well:

Cindy, in fact I agree, however business is War and I lost that battle in part due to my own stupidity, a mistake I will not make twice.

One interesting aspect of tonight’s thread is how much more involved Art Bell seemed to be in the conversation compared to posts past. Typically, Bell drops a line and it’s liked and commented on by hundreds, but he is not heard from again. This go, however, seems to have peaked his interest. On one hand, Bell’s love of science is evident. On the other, his dislike of any association with Coast is apparent.

As expected, there is reaction on BELLGAB that will most likely continue as the posting beat goes on. It’s doubtful that Noory and company will issue or speak of any official response to Bell, but it will certainly be fascinating to see what type of attention vaccines get on future Coasts.

January 29, 2015
The year of the goat and sheep. And ram. Expect the horns

YEAR OF THE GOAT..

No, that’s not a famous song line, you’re thinking of the year of the cat..

This is the year of the goat–or at least will be in February when the Chinese new year ends the horse we have been living through and gives us a brand new theme with a brand new animal.. The goat..

I am about tired of the recycling of 2014 at this point.. the memories, the years in review. Sure, even I promulgated a year in review, but in my opinion did it early enough to let it exist without forcing it down anyone’s throat.

The ball has since dropped. Ryan Seacrest has since cleaned off at least some guyliner, and Taylor Swift hopefully put on some pants.. It’s 2015..

But as we enter into the goat’s time period under Saturn, it’s fair to take a quick look as to what it may or may not mean..

The sheep, or goat is among the calmest of animals in tradition.
This year has been called the year of the sheep.. it’s the year of the goat. And even more, in 2015, the Chinese animal sign for 2015 is ‘yang.’ That is the inclusive term for the sheep and goat together, which speaks of that conflict as to what animal this year in fact is going to be represented by. Since the Chinese calender can’t really decide, I will: It’s actually, really, the year of the ram.

Things seem good, too. At least according to the horoscopes so many take stock in.. This year will be more positive, we are told.. the sheep’s meekness, or the goat’s givingness will endure. Of course, with any animal, especially a ram, expect a fierce kick to the backside now and then from fate.

There is a chance, we are told by some experts, that we will be seeing an immediate change in the way we look at problems this Ram year..

Sheepish people may be pessimistic. The ram may use that to its advantage..

The last time we endured a year of a sheep or goat was 2003. While my nostalgic memory longs for the days when I was 23 years of age, world history wasn’t too nice. That was the year of war, when George W. Bush launched the Iraq attack in March and the United States began frying “Freedom fries” in honor..

The logic in China is that it’s best to have a child before February of this year, since a baby born during a ‘horse’ is more likely to be a leader in the future as opposed to one born during the sheepish months that are coming..

In Western culture, of course, the sheep may mean something far darker than the the honorable meekness is represents in Asia. In the United States, for example, leading the sheep to slaughter is a common term to showcase the stupidity of the sheep or goat, and how easily others can prey upon them..

As 2015 begins, so do predictions over what this year will bring. Last night, George Noory hosted a predictions Coast to Coast AM with Joseph Jacobs, Glynis McCants and her numbers, John Hogue and his quatrains, and Vincent Genna. Hogue had perhaps the more interesting take on what 2015 will bring: His point is that 2015 is going to be the time period that could be called the year of the spark, when something may light the explosion.. Additionally, the American dream is going to be refined and retuned, he said..

Clyde Lewis had similar thoughts last night on his own program GROUND ZERO.. Lewis worried that a black swan event will take place in 2015..

The HORROR REPORT has already made its predictions..
While the important events of the year that take place can never be prognosticated regardless of the ‘clairvoyant’ uttering the words, themes can be .. moods and collective consciousness, I argue, can sway the mood of the nation and planet.

But those surprises that come when you least expect them are the true life changing events..

Meek and mild mannered sheep we may be.. but a ram is coming. And that ram may have a field day with the year of the goat.

January 2, 2015
FROM THE RANGE TO THE STRANGE: WELLS GETS SYNDICATED

Pounding away finally pays off..

Big news in the radio world..
You may remember the deep voice of John B. Wells on Coast to Coast AM. He was the weekend guy on the show until George Noory figured out that he was getting more popular than him and had him terminated from memory at the show..

Wells went off into Internet radio land, doing his own show called Caravan to Midnight—an odd name for a morning program..

But the uphill battle is paying off.. Wells has now been launched into national syndication..Talkers Magazine reports,

Entercom’s WRKO, Boston joins the affiliate roster as the first major market station, airing a Saturday evening edition of the show. The “Caravan to Midnight” program debuted in February of this year

Wells’ website offered up a brief feature of the types of programs he has been broadcasting..

I have constantly supported Wells, except during those times when he delved a little far too much off a deep end of Sandy Hook conspiracy theories.. But it’s good to see him succeed when, without a doubt, the Noory circle of jerkles never wanted him too.

Three cheers for John B.
Out of the dark of the deep range and into the light of the deep strange…

November 13, 2014
Art Bell streaming now in question

UPDATE: Art Bell has announced that differences have been worked out and his return is solidified for July 2015.. more here..

The original story:

ART BELL PULLS HIS WEBSITE AND DITCHES LONGTIME WEBMASTER.
Is his newest return over before it even begins?

Controversy began days ago when Dark Matter Network radio host Jimmy Church posted a photograph of himself standing with Coast to Coast AM host George Noory. The message that accompanied it: He would host Sunday’s upcoming Coast to Coast AM program. The outcry was immediate; fans of Church on the Dark Matter network smelled a rat.. and foes said it was what they expected.

The notable part of Chruch’s sudden apprenticeship with Noory is that his Fade to Black program is on the network built by Art Bell’s webmaster Keith Rowland. The Dark Matter network was also the expected vehicle for Art Bell’s return to streaming radio in 2015 when his Sirius XM non compete clause expired.

Until now..

Last night, a seemingly angry Art Bell took to Facebook to announce several things, including his website being taken down and any mention of his name ont he Dark Matter page being scrubbed.

In totality, Art Bell wrote this to his fans and followers,

The Dark Matter Network was established as a Forum to showcase new Talent and as a place where after my two Year Non-compete was done (In July next Year) that I could begin streaming live, it was run by Keith Rowland and of course a alternative to Coast. In the last few days I began getting email’s from many of you who could not believe that one of the Talk Host’s on DM was invited to do a Guest Host gig on Coast. This was done I am sure to irritate me which it did, however the straw that broke the camels back was that Keith did not have the courtesy to call me. When I called him, his response was “don’t worry he will stay on DM and Coast”. At that point I decided to pull my Web Page and asked Keith to remove my name from the site. This is not about Jimmy Church, I wish him all the luck in the World, this is about trust in relationships.

Where this leaves me in terms of where I can stream a show now is a open question. What I do know is I have to be able to trust the people I work with.

Art

The message was strong: A rift has seemed to develop now between Bell and Rowland–the man who has been Art’s right hand webmaster since the early days of the internet all the way to the Sirius XM shortfall.

Rowland himself posted brief responses to the Bell message on Facebook:

So because I didn’t call Art and advise him that Jimmy would appear on C2C, I’m tossed under the bus, even though many DMRN hosts and guests have appeared on C2C already

Rowland went on to write,

The appearance of Jimmy Church on C2C was to promote the Dark Matter Radio Network, the place where Art Bell was to return. I’m sorry that Art did that see that as its purpose.

I would love to resolve the issue, but Art doesn’t trust me anymore. I’m sorry that I wouldn’t be part of the Art Bell web site any more. I am running Dark Matter Radio Network as a basis for Art, but maybe that wont happen.

The always popular and readable BellGab website immediately lit up overnight with questions as to why ArtBell.com was suddenly unavailable. Some argued it was an error with the DNS. Then the truth came out when a message poster who emailed Rowland said that Rowland’s response to the web troubles was , “Ask Art.” Other posters guessed correctly what the problem was: The Jimmy Church exploration of Coast.

Apparently, as was expected by some watching the affair develop from the beginning, Rowland did not bother to mention to Art Bell that one of his radio allies was about to cohort with the enemy.

This newest event seems to continue the process of Coast to Coast AM constantly one upping the talk show giant. Bell left Coast to Coast and George Noory took the program into a new direction. Fans of Bell often will complain that Noory bastardized the Bell traditions, like open lines and Ghost to Ghost. After Bell came back to SiriusXM radio for a short stint, Coast began plucking off guests from Bell. Even more, they worked behind the scenes with Sirius radio and when Bell left, Coast to Coast AM took over the time slot he had occupied immediately. And now this newest event, plucking hosts away from the Dark Matter network, is the newest dagger.

Some will argue, including Jimmy Church himself, that when a big named national radio show calls and asks to host, you don’t say no. That may be true. But in Art Bell’s circle, it seems that trust weighs far higher in the pecking order than fame or fortune. The private and often quirky Art Bell’s beef does nto seem to be with Church, it is apparent that the focal point of the newest controversy is his relationship with long time friend Keith Rowland.

Those who understand the situation know this: A host being taken from the DARK MATTER network to host the enemy terrestrial radio program is a big deal. For Church, it could be the deal of a lifetime. It may begin a new career as a potential weekend host on a radio program with over 500 affiliates. But for Bell, it apparently is something he wanted to know about. He did not find out for Rowland, but instead fans on Facebook who undoubtedly expressed anger in a multitude of messages.

So where does this leave Bell?
Up in the air, as so often happens.
The planned return to radio was going to be done in a new medium for him: Live streaming. However, this rift seems to have stalled that plan.

There is a number of opinions being expressed on forums across the Internet, most notably on Bellgab. Some are angry at Bell himself, arguing that this is simply another temper tantrum and that he was looking for a way out of coming back. The majority however saw it coming. When Church announced his no professional relationship with George Noory–a man he once did not say many kind things about–the writing was on the wall: He wants to move on from Dark Matter. Keith Rowland neglected to tell Art that.

It’s tough being a fan of Art Bell. You never quite know where he stands on certain things. And when you do think you have it figured out, he takes his website down and exits the stage again.

As the famed ‘bateman’ on Bellgab said today: “Someone shit the bed big time here.” Perhaps the perfect summation to Church on Sunday.

November 7, 2014